4000 and Counting release anonymous statement regarding MK Thunder

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The 4000 and Counting hockey podcast have posted a statement they have received from an anonymous source. I couldn't figure out how to link to it so I've posted the entire statement below with a link to their Facebook Page.
The boys here at 4000 And Counting love British Hockey and look to support, promote and publicise the good aspects of our great game. However, as with anything, behind all the good there is also some bad. What follows is a statement derived from information received from multiple verified sources who have requested to remain anonymous due to concerns of reprisal.

For 19 years MK Thunder have been a well respected club, run by committed volunteers with the simple aim of providing hockey for some of the most talented young players in the country. That was until now. It has been disclosed to us that the club has been taken over and is now run autonomously by Lauren Cox. Every facet and function of the club, including Coaching and selection of playing personnel has been driven and directed by her to the clear detriment to the club. Many well respected people from the MK Hockey fraternity have been pushed out or had to walk away after voicing their frustrations and concerns about the way the club has been heading since the takeover.

During this past off season a number of prospective Coaches and players approached the club looking to get involved in the upcoming season. However they were all turned away as it was perceived that they wouldn't tow the line and do exactly as they were told. This attitude towards the running of the club was further highlighted recently when Thunder Coach Antti Kohvakka received a ban. While he served his ban the club were only eligible to ice one import, as per the NIHL's Rules of Competition. This fact was highlighted to the owner as it had become apparent that she was still planning to ice two imports as they had recently signed Julien Baeumlin. However in the face of this advice she still decided to break the rules and stated "We'll play him in Kyle Nash's shirt and no one will notice"!

With these types of decisions being made with the current ownership at the helm, we believe its only a matter of time before this well respected organisation capitulates. It's time for the EIHA to step in and investigate the premeditated cheating and for a democratic Committee to be put back in control of the club. We can only hope that the Thunder are restored to the stature that they once were as the league table never lies......

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If Lauren would like to refute all or part of this or tell her side of the story, we would be happy to publish her reply to ensure parity and allow her side to be heard by the same audience.
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Milton Keynes Thunder have responded to the statement released by 4000 and Counting by posting the below on their Facebook page:
Statement Regarding 4000 & Counting Facebook Post

This is a statement by MK Rightmove Thunder in relation to the post made on Facebook on 11th of February regarding our Club, and the running of the Club over this season.

The content of the post includes false accusations, and names and criticises an individual within the Club directly. No attempt was made to clarify any of the points with the Club prior to the post being made public.

The remarks are incorrect and are based on inaccurate information.

In response to the section of the post regarding the ownership and management of the Club, we can clarify that the Club was taken over by the current General Manager/Owner, who also assumed full financial responsibility, after the previous manager chose to step back from running the club after 19 years. The right to oversee the recruitment of coaches, volunteers, and other staff at the club lies with the owner.

An advertisement for coaching staff was posted online and several candidates applied for the roles of Head Coach, and Assistant Coach. On April 19th 2019, the Club appointed Antti Kohvakka to be Head Coach. Team selection and coaching staff appointments were delegated to Antti upon his appointment. Antti would go on to become a director of Thunder Hockey LTD, which now owns and operates the club. The company was incorporated on September 2019 and further information is readily available on the Companies House website.

The Club is operated by the Directors and three other volunteer committee members, who agree on and delegate match-night roles to other volunteers.

As is the case with the vast majority of individuals in British Ice Hockey, time is dedicated to the running of the Club for free. All of the volunteers at MK Rightmove Thunder have the best interests of the club at heart.

Regarding the claim the Club registered, and played a non-British player illegally, after Antti Kohvakka was suspended;

From September 2019, the Club had two registered non-British players. Antti Kohvakka and Iain Peters. The Club added another player (Julien Baeumlin) to its official roster the weekend of January 18th/19th, with his registration being confirmed by email the morning of Saturday 18th at 11:30am. Therefore he was registered before our game on the same day, when Thunder played Romford Junior Raiders at Sapphire Ice & Leisure, facing off at 5:30pm.

During that game, Antti Kohvakka received a match penalty for Abuse of Official, ruling him out for least one game until reviewed by the EIHA’s disciplinary committee.

On Sunday 19th January, Thunder were scheduled to play away to Invicta Dynamos at Planet Ice Gillingham. For that game, we listed Julien Baeumlin on the Electronic Gamesheet.

Before face-off, the coaching staff were reminded of the rule below by a former off-ice volunteer, in attendance at the game.

According to the NIHL Rules of Competition (RoC) – 11.9. Discipline

“When a non-British trained player receives a suspension from the Discipline Section, the team in question shall not be permitted to list on the Official EIHA Team List a replacement non-British trained player in their absence. This means that the maximum number of non-British trained players permitted to ice for a particular side will be reduced by one per suspended player for the length of that particular suspension.”

To confirm, the rule states that no player can be registered after a match penalty has been confirmed and at this point nothing had been flagged to the club by the EIHA disciplinary committee or the on-ice officials before, or after our game. Furthermore, the club’s management and Level 2 Coach on the day, made a phone call to an experienced referee to clarify this rule.

It was then further confirmed to us, by the EIHA, via email that both Julien Baeumlin and Iain Peters could dress for our game the following week (Sunday 25th January vs Chelmsford Chieftains).

In summary, no rules were broken and the post is incorrect.
Source: MK Thunder Facebook Page
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